HITWEEK... 9th of September 1966 Dutch Pop Magazine
Interview
JACK
NITZSCHE
Why should I try and get an interview with Jack Nitzsche?
Because he is mentioned on the back of the Rolling Stones LP's
for a while and because somebody from Hitweek called him 'the
genius behind Spector'. I went to a record shop because I wanted
to have more information about Jack. In the shop I listened to
his LP, "The Lonely Surfer". It is a LP with instrumental tracks,
filed alongside movie themes such as "Mondo Cane" (also available
in the Netherlands, I've seen it once in Concerto
.) I'm not awfully fond of instrumental records but "The Lonely
Surfer" is actually very good. On the cover of "The Lonely
Surfer" sits a nice boy in a nice suit. The text on the back
cover is written by Jack's friend Phil Spector, he is the one who
gave Jack the nickname 'Specs' ('Specs' means boy with glasses).
When I rang Jack Nitzsche he asked me if I could ring back after
the 15th of August: the Rolling Stones are busy with recording in
Hollywood until the 12th and not even Life magazine can be
present at the recordings.
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When I met Jack Nitzsche in a restaurant in Hollywood, he looks a
bit different to when I had seen him on the picture cover. A boy
with hair like a medieval page, a little bit curved in the back,
in a beautiful green velvet jacket. Between the hair and the
jacket a friendly head, with two intelligent eyes behind a pair
of glasses. Jack orders a fried egg with bacon. I order a
hamburger for myself, after all I decide that this is a nice
combination in this fashionable restaurant.
JACK NITZSCHE AND THE
STONES
MOTHER OF THE NEW MUSIC
I asked him if he is also one of the frustrated jazz musicians,
who arrange pop music. That's not the case, answers Jack. He came
to Los Angeles to go to a conservatory. He met Sonny Bono (Sonny
and his even grubbier girlfriend Cher, both bought
a Ford Mustang and had the chairs upholstered with mink fur by a
car decorator; one for the male and one for the female; this
shows that everybody has there limitations !), who
worked in a record company and became involved in pop music. Jack
Nitzsche does not regret the fact that he discontinued with his
saxophone study. He is convinced about the fact that it will be
pop music that will be popular in the future. The one and only
music where something is happening. ("The Mother of the new
music!"). Somewhat differently, to what a lot of other people in
Europe believe, Jack Nitzsche is explicit that England is still
heading in front of America. The Rolling Stones and The Beatles
are boys who act out new things. They have a high position, so
they can allow themselves to go in their own direction.
JUST FRIENDS
Jack Nitzsche got acquainted with The Rolling Stones before they
became famous. During their first tour through America. After
this he joined a TV show in England in which the Rolling Stones
were involved and Jack and The Rolling Stones became good
friends. He is presently with the recording of the record in
Hollywood and joined them with a lot of instruments; piano, harp,
percussion etc. He has a lot of admiration for the Stones. He
told me that they are ahead of their time. They are already
making plans for the time that they will not be famous anymore.
They sometimes apply themselves to the producing of records. Mick
Jagger has already produced two records. (The last one "Out Of
Time" by Chris Farlowe) which both became hit records. (Two out
of Two.)
Jack Nitzsche had never heard of FLUXUS . But he is
in favour of rotten records such as "Daydream
Believer", "Yellow Submarine" and "Monday Monday"
Also the Stones will have some rotten records on
there new LP . Apart from that Jack assured me that
there would be more startling things on the Stones LP.
WHAT DO WE EXACTLY MISS IN THE NETHERLANDS?
It becomes clearer and clearer as we continue with the
conversation about pop groups who are active over here. I ask
Jack Nitzsche if a singer can make a lot of difference compared
to a good producer and a arranger, he answers; 'not very much'.
He means, by the way he answered that particular question; 'it
makes no difference'. What we miss in The Netherlands is not a
Lovin' Spoonful or Mama's And Papa's . There are enough bands who
can play guitar and sing. We miss Phil Spector, Brian Wilson,
Jack Nitzsche, Bob Crewe, Burt Bacharach, Berry Gordy; we miss
the people who really dig pop music (so not Jack Bulterman
or Janie Bron ), who know what pop music is about and are
not trying to get Frank Sinatra inside by way of Rob de Nijs and
Cliff Richard. Jack Nitzsche really believes that the teenagers
at the moment are smarter than a year or five years ago.; 'You
can't sell them bad records anymore'.
JACK STARTS HIS OWN BUSINESS
Two years ago Jack Nitzsche moved to Spain for a while, with his
wife, children and P.J. Proby. To start a new business. It did
not work very well. In Franco's Spain people are prejuiced
against men with long hair and other expressions of free
thinking.
Jack Nitzsche is busy with establishing his own company " The
Original Great Western Gramophone Company". The first band he
will produce are the Satisfactions, who already have some fame in
Los Angeles. But again Jack made me understand that the artists
are not that important, as long as the others (producer,
arranger) are good.
SNAPSHOTS
When I ask Jack if he has some snapshots to include with this
article in Hitweek (I forgot my camera) it appears that he does
not have these elementary stars accessories in his
possession.
This will be different in a few years, when we realise who the
real stars in pop-music are.
Hitweek Interview by Frits Boer, (Los Angeles
correspondent).
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